But Cisco expects to make further announcements about what specific mobile devices will be supported and other partnerships. Analysts attending the Cisco event here were intrigued but also questioning. "It's not revolutionary, it's incremental," said Trent Henry, analyst at Burton Group (recently acquired by Gartner). For the mobility and cloud pieces to work as planned, "the ecosystem of partners to buy into it is yet to come." 
Share:  But <span class="company">Cisco</span> expects to make further announcements about what specific mobile devices will be supported and other partnerships.<span class="sent"> Analysts attending the <span class="company">Cisco</span> event here were intrigued but also questioning. "It's not revolutionary, it's incremental," said <span class="analyst">Trent Henry</span>, analyst at Burton Group (recently acquired by Gartner).</span> For the mobility and cloud pieces to work as planned, "the ecosystem of partners to buy into it is yet to come."...But <span class="company">Cisco</span> expects to make further announcements about what specific mobile devices will be supported and other partnerships.<span class="sent"> Analysts attending the <span class="company">Cisco</span> event here were intrigued but also questioning. "It's not revolutionary, it's incremental," said <span class="analyst">Trent Henry</span>, analyst at Burton Group (recently acquired by Gartner).</span> For the mobility and cloud pieces to work as planned, "the ecosystem of partners to buy into it is yet to come." Tweet this 

But Cisco expects to make further announcements about what specific mobile devices will be supported and other partnerships. . Analysts attending the Cisco event here were intrigued but also questioning. . "It's not revolutionary, it's incremental," said Trent Henry, analyst at Burton Group (recently acquired by Gartner). For the mobility and cloud pieces to work as planned, "the ecosystem of partners to buy into it is yet to come." 
Share:  But <span class="company">Cisco</span> expects to make further announcements about what specific mobile devices will be supported and other partnerships. . Analysts attending the <span class="company">Cisco</span> event here were intrigued but also questioning.<span class="sent"> . "It's not revolutionary, it's incremental," said <span class="analyst">Trent Henry</span>, analyst at Burton Group (recently acquired by Gartner).</span> For the mobility and cloud pieces to work as planned, "the ecosystem of partners to buy into it is yet to come."...But <span class="company">Cisco</span> expects to make further announcements about what specific mobile devices will be supported and other partnerships. . Analysts attending the <span class="company">Cisco</span> event here were intrigued but also questioning.<span class="sent"> . "It's not revolutionary, it's incremental," said <span class="analyst">Trent Henry</span>, analyst at Burton Group (recently acquired by Gartner).</span> For the mobility and cloud pieces to work as planned, "the ecosystem of partners to buy into it is yet to come." . Tweet this 

"I have challenges determining whether I'm using a device as an individual or employee," he said. Phil Schacter, VP and services director at the Burton Group, says that Cisco has been talking about borderless networks for years. While Cisco has gotten some elements right, like the need to enforce policies consistently, he says, there's reason to be concerned about potential vendor lock in. "I'd be somewhat wary about how this fits with the other things you might be doing," he said. "I'd be interested to hear Juniper's take." 
Share:  "I have challenges determining whether I'm using a device as an individual or employee," he said.<span class="sent"> <span class="analyst">Phil Schacter</span>, VP and services director at the Burton Group, says that <span class="company">Cisco</span> has been talking about borderless networks for years.</span> While <span class="company">Cisco</span> has gotten some elements right, like the need to enforce policies consistently, he says, there's reason to be concerned about potential vendor lock in. "I'd be somewhat wary about how this fits with the other things you might be doing," he said. "I'd be interested to hear Juniper's take." Tweet this 

. "Are you going to spend five times the cost [of Microsoft]?" asks Burton Group analyst Chris Wolf. 
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Even Microsoft's IT department alerted users to take caution in building directory infrastructure In a interview with Network World, Dave Gasiewicz, the lead architect for Microsoft's internal IT department, said "if you want to live in hell right away, go to multiple forests" The multiple forests architecture presented an administrative "boondoogle" and a very complex security model, Gasiewicz said His frankness was appreciated more by users than Microsoft's PR machine, but it was an indication that users were dealing with serious infrastructure technology "Microsoft did learn the hard way, which is almost an inevitable process for that level of infrastructure," says Jamie Lewis, CEO of the Burton Group/Gartner 
Share:  Even <span class="company">Microsoft</span>'s IT department alerted users to take caution in building directory infrastructure In a interview with Network World, Dave Gasiewicz, the lead architect for <span class="company">Microsoft</span>'s internal IT department, said "if you want to live in hell right away, go to multiple forests" The multiple forests architecture presented an administrative "boondoogle" and a very complex security model, Gasiewicz said His frankness was appreciated more by users than <span class="company">Microsoft</span>'s PR machine, but it was an indication that users were dealing with serious infrastructure technology<span class="sent"> "<span class="company">Microsoft</span> did learn the hard way, which is almost an inevitable process for that level of infrastructure," says <span class="analyst">Jamie Lewis</span>, CEO of the Burton Group/Gartner</span>...The multiple forests architecture presented an administrative "boondoogle" and a very complex security model, Gasiewicz said His frankness was appreciated more by users than <span class="company">Microsoft</span>'s PR machine, but it was an indication that users were dealing with serious infrastructure technology<span class="sent"> "<span class="company">Microsoft</span> did learn the hard way, which is almost an inevitable process for that level of infrastructure," says <span class="analyst">Jamie Lewis</span>, CEO of the Burton Group/Gartner</span> "It is not easy to build and it takes time for something as ambitious and complex Tweet this 

"A company with Oracle's money and clout behind it will make it interesting to watch," says Burton Group analyst Gary Creese 
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A piece in the Connected Planet focused on this new partnership between Alcatel Lucent and HP, noting the alliance is being announced at a time when IT and telecom are rapidly converging as service provider seek to address the needs of business to outsource increasingly complex network operations that combine what would have traditionally been separate telecom and IT departments and technologies "This does give HP another entre into the service provider market, where Alcatel Lucent has some pre established relationships," said David Passmore, an analyst with the Burton Group, in the Connected Planet "We've seen a lot of this type of alliance, and they don't all work This one seems real in the sense that HP has agreed to take over Alcatel IT operations and there are dedicated resources to the alliance, which is a pretty good sign of showing a commitment on the part of both parties" 
Share:  A piece in the Connected Planet focused on this new partnership between <span class="company">Alcatel Lucent</span> and HP, noting the alliance is being announced at a time when IT and telecom are rapidly converging as service provider seek to address the needs of business to outsource increasingly complex network operations that combine what would have traditionally been separate telecom and IT departments and technologies<span class="sent"> "This does give HP another entre into the service provider market, where <span class="company">Alcatel Lucent</span> has some pre established relationships," said <span class="analyst">David Passmore</span>, an analyst with the Burton Group, in the Connected Planet</span> "We've seen a lot of this type of alliance, and they don't all work This one seems real in the sense that HP has agreed to take over Alcatel IT operations and there are dedicated resources to the alliance, which is a pretty good sign of showing a commitment on the part of both parties"...A piece in the Connected Planet focused on this new partnership between <span class="company">Alcatel Lucent</span> and HP, noting the alliance is being announced at a time when IT and telecom are rapidly converging as service provider seek to address the needs of business to outsource increasingly complex network operations that combine what would have traditionally been separate telecom and IT departments and technologies<span class="sent"> "This does give HP Tweet this 

"Google is already up against a product installed in 90 percent of all enterprises," said Burton Group analyst Guy Creese 
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The trouble with a lightweight offering, says Guy Creese, an analyst with the Burton Group, is that it will limit its attractiveness to corporate customers — the ones Screven said Oracle wants to win 
Share:  <span class="sent">The trouble with a lightweight offering, says <span class="analyst">Guy Creese</span>, an analyst with the Burton Group, is that it will limit its attractiveness to corporate customers — the ones Screven said <span class="company">Oracle</span> wants to win</span> Tweet this 

"A company with Oracle's money and clout behind it will make it interesting to watch," said Burton Group analyst Gary Creese 
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